Showing posts with label ESPN chats. Show all posts
Showing posts with label ESPN chats. Show all posts

Monday, April 23, 2007

The Stupidest Thing I've Heard All Day, April 23

Guess what: It's from another Steve Phillips chat.

Dan (Philadelphia): Steve, is Brett Meyers ultimately going to be the closer for the Phillies? If so, what can they get for Tom Gordon?

SportsNation Steve Phillips: The Brett Myers move is one of the most perplexing I've seen in the recent past. I understand Jonathan Papelbon moving to the closer's role this spring, because the Red Sox had three other potential aces. The Phillies aren't as lucky, and removing Myers from the number 1 spot in the rotation to pitch him in the eighth innning doesn't make sense to me. I know the Phillies have concerns about the physical well-being of Tom Gordon to handle the closer's role for an entire season. If Myers goes to the bullpen, he has to close. For instance, he came in and pitched the ninth inning in a 9-2 game. That's a complete waste of Brett Myers' ability. He needs to start if he's not pitching in critical situations. Gordon doesn't have much trade value right now because everybody interprets the Phillies' moves to be as much about the eighth inning today as the ninth tomorow. If the Phillies could trade Gordon for a proven, consistent, top-flight eighth inning pitcher, they should jump at it now. they could move Myers to the closer's role and have more predictability out of the bullpen. I just don't think that deal is out there.

First of all, while I may not agree with some very smart people (and dumb people) who believe the Myers' move was the right one to make, using the term "perplexing" usually indicates that there's really no viable explanation. There are arguments to be made (even some good ones) that moving Myers to the 'pen is actually a masterstroke. It depends; I'm thinking about writing a post about how it could be a great move, but likely will be mismanaged. But that's neither here nor there; what's important is that "perplexing" is overstatement.

Further, holding up an example of how the Phillies have already starting mismanaging Brett Myers out of the 'pen doesn't illustrate your point, asshole. Of course Myers shouldn't be out there in a 9-2 game, but he should have been out there sometime in the first two weeks of the season when the Phillies were choking away leads in the late innings.

Finally, there is a truly "perplexing" argument made by Phillips, here, that made me laugh out loud. Here is the argument, presented in order of chronological premises and ultimate conclusion:

1) Brett Myers is the ace of the staff: .47 VORP (Veracity Over Replacement Premise, with 1.00 representing a completely and verifiably true statement)

2) (Implied) Brett Myers, as the "ace" of the starting staff, is immediately also the team's best pitcher in the bullpen: .13 VORP

3) Brett Myers would only have value to the Phillies bullpen if he were the closer, because only closers come up in "critical" situations: -.99 VORP (a negative VORP like this one indicates that it's actually the complete opposite of the truth)

4) Tom Gordon does not have trade value: -.41 VORP

Those are the four main premises to the following argument, which have a combined VORP of -.80, which means that there is no possible way that Phillips could possibly reach a viable conclusion. Yet he soldiers on with this gem:

Conclusion: The Phillies should consider trading Tom Gordon for an eighth-inning pitcher, despite the fact that Steve just said that eighth-inning pitchers aren't all that important because they don't pitch in "critical" situations. Furthermore, Brett Myers, upon receiving the magical "C" tattoo on his left ass cheek, will immediately become a great closer because there's no possible way a talented guy could possibly not be suited to short relief roles after spending his entire career starting and he's put up numbers this season that make Russ Ortiz look like Walter Fucking Johnson but who cares about that shit because Myers has the "look" of a great closer, unlike Tom Gordon who I hate because he looks like a nice dude that wouldn't hit his wife on a crowded, public street.

Yes, Steve, it all makes sense to me now. Thank ye.

Wednesday, April 11, 2007

The Stupidest Thing I've Heard All Day, April 11

Two things, actually. I promise, I'm going to stop pretending that Joe Morgan is a legitimate topic, but there are two of the single funniest, most obtuse things I've ever seen in my life. I am now convinced that Joe Morgan is functionally illiterate, and has his 7-year-old godson answer all the questions "because he knows about those newfangled eletrical keyboards."

Mike (St. Louis): Joe, can you share your favorite Jackie Robinson encounter with us?

SportsNation Joe Morgan: I guess the one time I met him and had a chance to talk to him. I told him thank you and he smiled and said you're welcome. That's probably my favorite when we had a chance to converse.

I don't know why, but I can't get the image of Joe Morgan being soothed by his wife out of my head. It is a disturbing image.

And then, the most awesome chat response of all time:

Rick H. (Selah, Wa.): Do you think King Felix has a shot at the AL Cy Young this season? Or, will it be another year or two?

SportsNation Joe Morgan: Dwight Gooden is the best young pitcher I've ever seen. He was better than all of them at a young age.

In the words of Alex Trebeck, "Simply stunning."

Wednesday, April 04, 2007

The law of diminishing retards

Awww ... this was dissapointing, Steve. You usually say at least six or seven things that are totally and completely wrong. Today, there are only two things worth bringing up:

Adam (Mount Vernon, IA):
Do you agree with the Twin's decision of going with Ponson & Silva(both proven to be awful) instead of Garza & Perkins(both unproven)?

SportsNation Steve Phillips: I do agree with the decision. Teams don't always start with the best 25-man roster, because over the course of a season, you need probably 15 pitchers available to cover 162 games. It's about having the best roster for the most number of games. Often times, teams will make decisions out of Spring Training to protect their depth for 162 games. Garza and Perkins will both be in the rotation at some point this year. If they were to release both Ponson and Ortiz and go with the two young starters, the risk they run is that one of both of them fails and there's nobody down below to replace them.

This is quite possibly the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. Here is a breakdown of what Steve's really saying:

- You have two very good young pitchers who are ready to pitch in the minor leagues;
- You have two older, horrible pitchers who are ready to be pumping my gas;
- You would rather have the two older, horrible pitchers on the opening day roster even though you are almost positive they are going to fail, and you fully expect you will need to call up one or both of the younger guys to replace them at some point in the season, because there's a chance the young guys could fail, and then you wouldn't have anyone to replace them;
- Your central concern should always be depth, as opposed to winning baseball games.

Steve, a piece of advice: The next time you're taking it in the ass from Bill Stoneman, get him to choke you. I hear it's a rush.


Ryan from Lansing NY: Do you feel Frank Thomas is a Hall of Famer?

SportsNation Steve Phillips: Absolutely.

OK, cool. I agree.

I don't think there's any question about it.

Well, of course there's going to be some question about it, Steve ... Ran Santo and Burt Blyleven aren't in, so it's not like it's impossible for a qualified candidate to get shut out.

Beyond the shadow of a doubt.

We get it. Stop now.

he's played clean his whole career.

Huh? How do you know? I bet you didn't think Alex Sanchez was juicing, did ya? Or Jason Grimsley? How the fuck do you know who has and hasn't juiced, Steve, unless there's been a fucking book written about how that player juiced that ended up getting the authors thrown in jail?

There's never been any thing about steroids with him.

There's (was) never been any thing about steroids with Matt Lawton, before got caught he did, Corky.

He'll be a 500-HR club member and worthy of HOF status.

At least you decided to cite some basis for his HOF worthiness. He may also wear Members Only jackets, Steve ... I think you should check on this.